Now you’re making me work! Let’s see, I finished the first draft of the book a little over two years ago. The biggest initial change was the character count. In the first draft there was no uncle for our heroine, or half-sister. As for hard or easy, writing for me is a very fluid state, I just go wherever the characters lead, in that regard it just flowed. In terms of process I write straight through until the first draft is finished. I let it sit for about a week without reading it and try to pick it up with a fresh eye. I make a ton of revisions and then I ask readers to give me feedback, and by readers I mean my husband and next door neighbor. With this book my agents gave me a set of notes for revisions, and after it went to the publisher (ex-publisher: click here for explanation) I worked with the gentleman you introduced me to, Robert Winter, for line by line scrutiny. He paid particular attention to maintaining narrative tone, clarity, and gave me extensive notes on enhancing and defining the text.
Joe Merlin, the crass, corpulent, producer was really fun to write. And then there were characters I kinda loved. Like the heroine’s father (I wonder why?) and the smart-talking barista in the coffee shop across from “Eminence Towers” and the Church of Clientology.
I had Bob Brown’s distinctive patois down pat, right? Because I was listening to someone similar since the beginning of time—well—my time, at any rate. Cole was easy as well, I drew on voices from when I was a kid and living in London, but that was long ago. His dialogue got updated and refined by the Mr. Winter (your countryman) who I was referring to earlier.
You’re going to laugh, George, but I didn’t find writing the novel in any way difficult. Now if you want to talk about writing the weblog, that has its difficult moments. Breaking it down I’d say writing a novel is spinning a yarn, telling a tale, crafting a story. There’s a beginning, middle, and end. A weblog is a continuum. (By the way, I hope you appreciate, you who are from the UK, that I am not using the more Americanized term: blog.) Back to the difficulties in writing a weblog—it’s more of a running commentary—sometimes it resonates with readers, and sometimes it doesn’t. It’s much more temporal.
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Hey, no blushing, but now can you talk a little about writing sex?!
Ah. Sex. There was a lot less in the novel in the first draft, and then I started getting feedback. My next door neighbor said, “Write the sex! You just glossed over it!” My first thought was, why write it? Everyone knows what sex is like. And then it dawned on me that sex is different for everyone. And how a character experiences sex, or perceives of sex, says a lot about them.
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Dialogue! Followed by characterization. My personal Max Perkins***, also known as Robert Winter, said something I liked about the characters. He said they had a pungent realism. That’s aces for an author to hear, coming from an editor. I hope the plotting made sense, it seems to derive from what the character’s are doing.
[*** William Maxwell Evarts “Max” Perkins September 20, 1884 – June 17, 1947, was the editor for Ernest Hemingway, F. Scott Fitzgerald…via Maxwell Perkins – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.]
The good thing I got from writing screenplays was a sense of pacing, in a movie you never want to lose the audience’s attention, I was conscious of that while I was writing the novel. The other benefit from screenplays is knowing how and when to use dialogue. The major difference between novel and screenplay is written description. In a script it’s brief, just the barest information. I had to wean myself off of that. I had to describe the world of the novel much more clearly.
Even though the blog (and trying to figure out how to promote the book) takes up most of my time now, I do still read as much as I can. It’s a habit formed in childhood that’s hard to break. What sparked my interest in reading? It must have been my older siblings. They taught to read when I was four, since then I’ve been roaming the library stacks—and I think Jeff Bezos owes his early success to me. Books that appeal to me have emotional validity, a captivating voice; and a precise view into history, a place, or a personal dynamic… Which is my way of wiggling out of giving you specifics. Okay. I can see you scowling. I’ll tell you why I read, which I think is more important than who I read, I read to see the world differently.
London was a great for me. It taught me that everyone thinks their home is the center of the universe. But more than that, I think I caught a sense of continuity there, of history, that I hadn’t experienced in the United States.
Music? I dance barefoot and I listen to everything!
Well, I did do something similar to a polka in a ballet class recital of Coppélia. To my knowledge, I’ve never heard Bieber sing, and did you know Pat Boone played a very funny parody of his squeaky-clean image in a movie called “Goodbye, Charlie,” starring Debbie Reynolds and Tony Curtis? Okay. I’m done dodging your question: I listen to classical (blaring, so I feel like I’m in Carnegie Hall), film scores, R&B, Alt. Rock, Classic Rock, Punk, Hip hop, House, Nat King Cole and other vocalists who send shivers down my spine, that kind of thing!
Oh baby! We talk a lot of shop around here. Which is probably why I didn’t write a novel set in Nebraska (no disrespect to Willa Cather). Movies, I’ve seen so many and from such an early age I can’t really separate them as a distinct influences, it’s more like they’re a part of my vocabulary. Does that make sense?
Before I started the weblog I was halfway through writing another novel. And guess what! I’m still halfway through… The novel is set in the center of my universe, Hollywood, and now that you mention it there are one or two overlapping characters… (By the way, do you know ellipses or, … , drive editors INSANE?)
Golly Jeepers! I have a yearning to get back to writing the new novel, but I know I have to devote my time now to selling It’s in His Kiss. Strengths? I can tell you right now “patience” is not one. Wait, you meant in terms of writing. That I do know. I listen to my characters, and the very, very wise words of Billy Wilder, “The Wilder message is don’t bore – don’t bore people.”
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This was just so utterly fantabulous that I am at a loss for words! I am! As someone who has absolutely no idea how novels are written and yet loves to read, this was truly insightful. Merci Mr. Bunny Suit, I mean Mr. Kaplan for the delving questions and to you, the lovely Ms. V, not only for your answers but for writing such a wonderful novel, one that has stayed with me long after having read it…
…and yes, the thought that some of the characters might return in a future novel brought me not a little joy too!
Gros Bisous à vous deux,
H
I am listening to the Arctic Monkeys. I believe George would be proud.
The next novel is a cautionary tale…about a nanny who becomes a studio head…
Hey! I’m still working on it! xox, V
Ah, I will most certainly have fingers crossed that the book is seen and appreciated as it should be in the traditional outlets.
And of course! The novel that you have excerpted here!! Oh me my mind is as mushy as the cottage cheese that I dollopped on my rice cake this morning (topped with EVOO and cracked pepper of course)! Bring it on….!!!
Oh… I dream of getting back to writing a novel… xox!
Fabulous interview! And, you say, we may hear more from some of these characters? Yay!
Turns out I like being interviewed. Who’d a thunk it? Wishing you a beautiful Monday in Christchurch!
Your wish came true! It’s beautiful today.
Who is that in the top photo? I adore her glasses, and her typewriter! (I’m a wearer of vintage cat eye glasses and an owner/typist on a vintage typewriter.)
They’re all pictures of Ms. Gloria Swanson, photogenic gal!
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Such a fun and lively conversation 🙂 Definitely makes me want to re-read IIHK!